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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Apr 26, 2024 14:50
 Subject: Re: What are the guidelines, really?
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 Topic: General
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  Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Into the catalogue? Definitely not. There are many parts made by machines owned
by LEGO and sold by LEGO that should not be in the catalogue. For example, LEGO
Discovery Centres used to have engraving machines where they would engrave your
name or a word on a brick. They might still do it, it's been a long time
since I went. They own the machine, they sell the part. There would be unlimited
catalogue entries if they were allowed. Same with the new torso printing machines.

As to whether they should be allowed to be sold as customs, that is another issue.
However, if something was made on a LEGO owned machine, how can you tell? If
those are allowed as customs, they'd have to allow parts engraved or printed
on other machines, as they wouldn't be able to tell them apart. And then
they could end up allowing the sale of IPs they don't have the license for.
As for undecorated but custom parts, is there really a difference? If they are
custom ordered, made on demand, then there is little difference.

  Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Apr 26, 2024 14:43
 Subject: Re: How often do you get messages?
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 Topic: Selling
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In Selling, sasquatch_eater writes:
  Just out of curiosity, how frequently do you, as owners of large stores (I'm
thinking 1,000+ orders) get messages from buyers informing you about missing
pieces or broken pieces in their order. I have had to send multiple of these
messages during my time on BL (I really hate doing it) and I wanted to know how
irritating it is on the receiving end.

--Claude

for me its about 0.5%-2.0% of orders I get messages regarding missing items (and
once for a helmet that broke in shipping). I wouldn't say I'm "irritated"
by them I usually just think back and wonder "how did i miss that?"
 Author: sasquatch_eater View Messages Posted By sasquatch_eater
 Posted: Apr 26, 2024 14:37
 Subject: How often do you get messages?
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Just out of curiosity, how frequently do you, as owners of large stores (I'm
thinking 1,000+ orders) get messages from buyers informing you about missing
pieces or broken pieces in their order. I have had to send multiple of these
messages during my time on BL (I really hate doing it) and I wanted to know how
irritating it is on the receiving end.

--Claude
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: Apr 26, 2024 14:36
 Subject: Re: parts in non existent colors deleted
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In General, adpb writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  
  
  It is not from PAB. That was just an example to show that there are also legit
ways to get unreleased lego parts.

  The part has been retired for 30 years. This is 99.9% sure just a test part that
escaped the factory.


"Escaping the factory" is not the same as legitimate routes such as from
a PAB wall.

It is old. It might have happened a long time ago. But if LEGO wants to stop
illegitimate pieces from being produced and stolen now, they have to put a stop
to all pieces like that. Otherwise, in 30 years time, those new illegitimate
Vader helmets all become fair game to list as they are old and it happened a
long time ago.

Than what about these known stores that list old "Q-parts" from the 90s
in vast amounts. These parts probably originate from model shops. How do we know
these were obtained in a legal way? Should that be allowed.

https://store.bricklink.com/MT_Bricks?itemID=114736387#/shop?o={%22invID%22:%22114736387%22}

It’s interesting that the parts are all new after 20ish years
 
Part No: 2881  Name: Hinge Train Pantograph Shoe with 3 Fingers
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2881 Hinge Train Pantograph Shoe with 3 Fingers
Parts: Hinge {Red}
Not even 1 person is selling them used?
 Author: adpb View Messages Posted By adpb
 Posted: Apr 26, 2024 14:29
 Subject: Re: parts in non existent colors deleted
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  
  
  It is not from PAB. That was just an example to show that there are also legit
ways to get unreleased lego parts.

  The part has been retired for 30 years. This is 99.9% sure just a test part that
escaped the factory.


"Escaping the factory" is not the same as legitimate routes such as from
a PAB wall.

It is old. It might have happened a long time ago. But if LEGO wants to stop
illegitimate pieces from being produced and stolen now, they have to put a stop
to all pieces like that. Otherwise, in 30 years time, those new illegitimate
Vader helmets all become fair game to list as they are old and it happened a
long time ago.

Than what about these known stores that list old "Q-parts" from the 90s
in vast amounts. These parts probably originate from model shops. How do we know
these were obtained in a legal way? Should that be allowed.

https://store.bricklink.com/MT_Bricks?itemID=114736387#/shop?o={%22invID%22:%22114736387%22}

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